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magicpapa

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that was my pride and joy picked it up in 78' for 800$
now its somewhere out in a field :cry:
 

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Oldring lost his head !

I just received this card in the mail today. It's a 1914 T222 Fatima card. The reason I bought it was because the player is missing his head ! :LOL: The card isn't torn. There are crease on the card. The player's name is Reuben (Rube) Oldring.

Here's an explanation why the card how the card might have come to be from someone on the Net54 vintage card forum.

There might be others. Since they're photographs I don't know if T222s were done as sheets or individually. There's a few places in the photo process this could have happened, most would be a one time only sort of thing. If they used multiple negatives and one got some light exposure that would also cause the same problem, but it would be odd for it to get all the way into production. If they were done as contact prints- Negative and paper placed under glass and exposed - the effect seen would be almost impossible. If done with an enlarger type apparatus something could have blocked the light during the exposure. Or for any, the tray of developer could have been low and/or the paper curled causing a section to not get developed. I think that's the most likely since it's done on the dark and whoever was doing it was probably doing a bunch of them so they'd have had multiple cards/sheets in different developing trays and could have missed a mistake like this.
 

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Oldring lost his head !

I just received this card in the mail today. It's a 1914 T222 Fatima card. The reason I bought it was because the player is missing his head ! :LOL: The card isn't torn. There are crease on the card. The player's name is Reuben (Rube) Oldring.

Here's an explanation why the card how the card might have come to be from someone on the Net54 vintage card forum.

There might be others. Since they're photographs I don't know if T222s were done as sheets or individually. There's a few places in the photo process this could have happened, most would be a one time only sort of thing. If they used multiple negatives and one got some light exposure that would also cause the same problem, but it would be odd for it to get all the way into production. If they were done as contact prints- Negative and paper placed under glass and exposed - the effect seen would be almost impossible. If done with an enlarger type apparatus something could have blocked the light during the exposure. Or for any, the tray of developer could have been low and/or the paper curled causing a section to not get developed. I think that's the most likely since it's done on the dark and whoever was doing it was probably doing a bunch of them so they'd have had multiple cards/sheets in different developing trays and could have missed a mistake like this.

As the resident A's collector I can confirm Rube Oldring in fact had a head:

t206oldringf.jpg t206oldringb.jpg

t206oldringbat.jpg t206oldringbatb.jpg t205oldring.jpg t205oldringb.jpg

Not the greatest head ever, but it's a head. Glad to be of service, since I'm sure you were all wondering.
 

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So, what is considered vintage? As a kid during the 90s, I refuse to believe my collection is “vintage”. 🤣
 

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It all depends on who you ask. You will get a different answer from everyone you ask.
 

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From Google AI
Sports cards that are pre-1981 are generally considered vintage. This is because the number of cards produced increased dramatically in 1981, making most cards from the 1980s less valuable.

While there is no official consensus on what makes an item vintage, many agree that it should be between 20 and 99 years old. When grading vintage cards, they are held to the same standards as modern cards.
 

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From Google AI
Sports cards that are pre-1981 are generally considered vintage. This is because the number of cards produced increased dramatically in 1981, making most cards from the 1980s less valuable.

While there is no official consensus on what makes an item vintage, many agree that it should be between 20 and 99 years old. When grading vintage cards, they are held to the same standards as modern cards.
Most of our group is Vintage!!!!!
 

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