Adam Dunn might hit 600 HR, would he make the HOF?

[markakis8]

Offense is only half the game


There should be no pitchers in the HOF.

Ok, if you are serious about that...then you might want to stick talking hockey.

 

[ballerskrip]

The whole "well this person is better than this person" for the HOF is annoying anyway.

I say no to Dunn. Other than hit a lot of home runs, what has he done? Two all-star games?

I don't think all star games made is a worthy factor to decide HOF. If so, then the fans play a big role into who makes the HOF. We mock, judge, and laugh at the all star game rosters each year, so I just can't buy into that.

 

[markakis8]

I was defending Ozzie, not saying Dunn can't make the Hall.

Here is the all time hits list, look at the big name HOF guys with FEWER hits than Ozzie.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_career.shtml?mobile=false

I also see many non-HOF that have more hits than Ozzie...so how is 2500 a watermark for the HOF?

 

[markakis8]

I don't think all star games made is a worthy factor to decide HOF. If so, then the fans play a big role into who makes the HOF. We mock, judge, and laugh at the all star game rosters each year, so I just can't buy into that.

Thank goodness

Signed,

Robin Yount

 

[thefatguy]

I'd put Hamilton in before Dunn.

JH swings and misses 58% of the time. Look at his stats.



The Iron Man, the wizard of Oz, the Bambino, hammerin hank, Jr., The Big Hurt. . .


The Big Donkey.

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

I don't think all star games made is a worthy factor to decide HOF. If so, then the fans play a big role into who makes the HOF. We mock, judge, and laugh at the all star game rosters each year, so I just can't buy into that.

I don't think it is either. I threw it out there sarcastically, which admittedly I should have notated. It's the only other "notable" thing I can find that he's ever done.

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

I'm saying pick a measure for HOFers and stick with it. When it comes to Ozzie Smith people talk about his defense and not much else. When he came to defense, he was the best, when it came to offense, he was one of the worst. That's just fact.

I'm debating those that are saying "all he did was hit the long ball 600 times and he sucked at everything else" using that as an argument as to why he shouldn't be in.

The thing is, you can't just pick a single measuring stick for who gets into the HOF. Placing all players on the same level field in determining who gets in just makes zero sense.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

That was more than a few years ago. The Andruw Jones HOF debate has been prevalent on these boards since his role playing days with the White Sox, Rangers, and Yankees. Also Andruw Jones put himself in the position he is today but becoming extremely lazy. Dunn is not lazy.

The (obvious) point is that anything can happen. Dunn could easily get injured for instance, or revert back to 2011.

Personally I'd love to see 600 from the guy.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

I don't think all star games made is a worthy factor to decide HOF. If so, then the fans play a big role into who makes the HOF. We mock, judge, and laugh at the all star game rosters each year, so I just can't buy into that.

AS games most certainly ARE a strong contributing factor to HOF voting. AS games go to a player's contributions to the game and character - 2 criteria for HOF voting.

 

[HPC]

Why bother having these debates?!

Why not just let everyone in the Hall of Fame!

That way no ones feelings are hurt and we can put to rest all these "this guy is better than this guy"

Sure, Dunn's only averaged a .242 career average so far and struck out 1958 times in 5739 at bats while being an average defender...let him in!!

/obvious sarcasm

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

Why bother having these debates?!

Why not just let everyone in the Hall of Fame!

That way no ones feelings are hurt and we can put to rest all these "this guy is better than this guy"

Sure, Dunn's only averaged a .242 career average so far and struck out 1958 times in 5739 at bats while being an average defender...let him in!!

/obvious sarcasm

Trophies for all!

I never understood the argument about "this guy is better than that guy so.......". If that was the case, why not only have four people in the HOF, the best overall player, best offensive hitter, best defensive player, and best pitcher since nobody else is "better" than those guys.

 

[thefatguy]

Dunn hit 46 HR once, his only time hitting over 40 HR.

If he hits 40 for 2.5 more years he will just get to 500.

Do you see 6+ more seasons of 40+ HR to get to 600?
I sure don't. This is season 12 already.

 

[markakis8]

Dunn hit 46 HR once, his only time hitting over 40 HR.

If he hits 40 for 2.5 more years he will just get to 500.

Do you see 6+ more seasons of 40+ HR to get to 600?
I sure don't. This is season 12 already.

Your numbers are a little off.

 

[scotty216brs]

You guys are forgetting that he walks a lot and if it wasn't for his horrid year last year, his career OPS would be around .900. So he's 10x the hitter Dave Kingman was, as Kingman was lucky to have an OBP of .300. Adam Dunn's OBP is anywhere from .350 to .400. If he can get that back up a bit and has 600 HR, he'll make the HOF. Juan Pierre will make the HOF if he gets 3,000 hits. Jamie Moyer will get in the HOF if he has 300 wins.

Just the way it is.

But he WAS horrid last season, you can't just take away a poor year for the sake of your argument. And walks? Yeah, let's put Dunn in the HOF because he walks a lot. Jesus christ, you make is seem like getting the slowest guy in the league on first base is a GOOD thing, lol!

Adam Dunn is a poor man Reggie Jackson, minus the MVP, minus the dozen+ AS appearances, and minus the postseason success and WS rings. Dunn has only led the league in K's[3] and BB's[1], while Jackson has led the league in HRs, SLG%, OPS, etc.

Dunn is a one trick pony, and is on pace to break Jackson's strikeout record. Not to mention will end up being one of the worst defensive players of all time...he is most likely better suited at 1B, but it's too late now. He might make it to 500 HRs but he won't get to 600....which team is going to want a 37+ year old Dunn on their team if at 32 he is hitting at the mendoza line and striking out in 42% of his ABs?

 

[hoopster3977]

Anyone with a few decent seasons and a couple of All-Star games, Football and Basketball players get voted into their sports Hall of Fame.

 

[markakis8]

Even with the worst offensive year from a hitter last year....the past 8 years, Dunn has averaged over 36 HR a year the past 8 years. He is clearly going to hit 40 HR this year....what makes people so sure that he can't average 30 HR the next 6 years and possibly get to 600?

 

[thefatguy]

500-396 career HR =104 to 500hr
At 40 HR per season, that's 2.6 years.


Sorry another 5 seasons, at 40 per year, which I dont think will happen. He will start to decline.

I don't see 5 more years of 40or more from Dunn. I predict more years like last year ahead.

 

[markakis8]

But he WAS horrid last season, you can't just take away a poor year for the sake of your argument. And walks? Yeah, let's put Dunn in the HOF because he walks a lot. Jesus christ, you make is seem like getting the slowest guy in the league on first base is a GOOD thing, lol!

Adam Dunn is a poor man Reggie Jackson, minus the MVP, minus the dozen+ AS appearances, and minus the postseason success and WS rings. Dunn has only led the league in K's[3] and BB's[1], while Jackson has led the league in HRs, SLG%, OPS, etc.

Dunn is a one trick pony, and is on pace to break Jackson's strikeout record. Not to mention will end up being one of the worst defensive players of all time...he is most likely better suited at 1B, but it's too late now. He might make it to 500 HRs but he won't get to 600....which team is going to want a 37+ year old Dunn on their team if at 32 he is hitting at the mendoza line and striking out in 42% of his ABs?

I find it laughable that you think getting on base 37% of time is not something to look at. So you are saying if he didn't walk a lot and hit .333 for his career and had an OBP of .370....THEN he would be a HOF?

What does it matter how you get on base via the walk or the hit? you are giving your team a better chance to score a run.

 

[HPC]

Even with the worst offensive year from a hitter last year....the past 8 years, Dunn has averaged over 36 HR a year the past 8 years. He is clearly going to hit 40 HR this year....what makes people so sure that he can't average 30 HR the next 6 years and possibly get to 600?

Probably because as players age, their overall production declines.

It happens.

Do i think its possible for Dunn to do it as a DH, yes, but even then does it make him a hall of famer?

No

 

[markakis8]

500-396 career HR =104 to 500hr
At 40 HR per season, that's 2.6 years.


Sorry another 5 seasons, at 40 per year, which I dont think will happen. He will start to decline.

I don't see 5 more years of 40or more from Dunn. I predict more years like last year ahead.

1. You are assuming he will finish this year with 31 HR? You don't think he'll hit 40 HR this year?

2. Look at my stats above, even with his 11 Hr season last year, he AVERAGED 36+ HR a year...what makes you so sure he can't get 200 HR in 6-7 years? Why does it have to be 5 years? Has he said he's going to retire at 37 or something?